@TisForTraining 307: What a minute, hold my beer!

Pat Wagner at Niagrara Falls

Tonight Pat Wagner (seen in the photo with a book in hand) joined this library trainer podcast to talk about her career in training-teaching-learning, tell stories about what has worked for her, gives us somelasting truths.  Also on the call were Andrea Snyder, Jill Hurst-Wahl, Paul Signorelli, Tom Haymes, and Maurice Coleman.

Pat started her career as a poet and will return to her writing career at the end of 2022. For her, this is a year of transition. She has loved working with all of her library clients, but feels that going back to writing is “going back home.”

As a trainer, Maurice notes that Pat doesn’t need any PowerPoint or anything fancy. She can capture a room with a flip chart and marker. For her, training is a dialogue with the audience. This led us to tell technology fail stories and the need to select the right technology for the job.

Evergreen principles of training:

    • 95% of the learning happens outside of the classroom. That is when they use what they learn, so the learning really sinks in.
        • Retention and application. Think about how you want people to apply what you’re teaching them.
    • {Okay…Jill didn’t capture her second point. And so what else did I miss?}
    • Content is king.

What would she toss out?

    • Teaching to a model or author, rather than looking at it as a starting place.
    • Being too clever.
    • Trying to cram too much into a webinar.

Near the end of the hour, Pat talked about people being addicted to “struggling.” While that seems odd, it was a really interesting – and important – part of the conversation.

You can listen to this episode on TalkShoe and wherever you get your podcast episodes.

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And now, everyone, it is my pleasure to introduce you to everyone else!
 

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