Jared Bendis, a feral librarian, joined the T is for Training crew again and this time to talk about TikTok. What?! On the call with Jared were Maurice Coleman, Paul Signorelli, Tom Haymes, Diane Huckabay, and Jill Hurst-Wahl.
TikTok is a medium for sharing short and long form videos. Jared describes it as being focused on the creator. Jared started with talking about how he began using TikTok. He “stalked before he talked”, which means he watched before he began posted. He posted his first video in January 2022. He now has over 9800 followers and more than 285K likes. He has a viral video that has over 114K views! On TikTok he is able to reach people he doesn’t know.
TikTok begins by giving people the ability to post a 1-minute video. After a while, people graduate to 3-minute videos. Jared has graduated again to be able to post 10-minute videos, and yes, he posts 10-minute videos. And he has the ability to go live. He noted that short videos have the ability to go viral. Important to know that videos are not served sequentially. Each video needs to stand on its own.
Jared then began to rift on what he posts and why, and also talked about the TikTok algorithm. And the stories flowed! This is a long show and you need to listen until the end. It is good!
On the call were Paul Signorelli, Jill Hurst-Wahl, Maurice Coleman, Tom Haymes, and Diane Huckabay. Tonight’s topic was:
Dealing With Unexpected Emotional and Difficult Situations Online as Opposed to Onsite
We talked about what we’ve done in class sessions. We recognize that there is an element of trust in all of this. Tom rightly pointed out that a class is only part of the learning. Questions:
- What is lost if someone misses several class sessions?
- Can community standards or a contract with the learners help?
- Can the class structure allow for students to “fail” in small ways (e.g., missing a class) and still succeed in the class?
- Are these external resources at the institution which can help the student?
- How do you build a strong community that together can deal with unexpected or difficult situations?
- How do we build the skills to handle Black Swan events in our classes when they happen?
We mentioned blog posts by Heather Plett such as “What it means to “hold space” for people, plus eight tips on how to do it well.”
At the end of the recording, you can hear Maurice talk about the phrases that stood out to him, including:
Listening to the silence. Seeing the emotion.
It was a lively discussion! Take a listen.
Tonight we were joined by Punya Mishra, who is the Associate Dean of Scholarship & Innovation & Professor at Arizona State University and a contributor to the Silver Lining for Learning podcast and blog. We jumped right in to talking about education technology.
Punya and Maurice Coleman noted that we’ve gotten away from thinking that education technology is sexy, and are focusing on the theory of learning, benefits of using technology, and the pitfalls. We wandered through related topics, including the work Punya is doing at ASU. He brings his background in design to this work.
The Silver Lining Podcast started early in the COVID pandemic to interview educators. The podcast grew out of the blog post “What If Schools Are Closed for More than a Year Due to the New Coronavirus (COVID-19)?” The podcast is focused on the potential and real silver linings of education during the pandemic. He noted that is we design the education system correctly, it will be resilient, and that is an important point regarding education during the pandemic.
Great quote, “a large part of education is about becoming.”
Another quote, “I want [students] to remember that they’re not alone; if they need to know something, they’re surrounded by people and resources who can help them.”
We had a fascinating conversation about how do you put more topics into a student’s education, which is often what educators are asked to do. Punya said we should ask students five years after the class what they remember. Do they remember what we want? Can we then design our courses and programs around 5+/- things we want them to learn? Then connect everything to those things. Maurice summarized this as:
Capture > Remix > Release
Besides Punya and Maurice, also on the call tonight were Paul Signorelli, Tom Haymes, Diane Hackabay, Ruben Puentedura, and Jill Hurst-Wahl.
Gardner, Howard. (2000)
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Tonight the crew – Diane Huckabay, Jill Hurst-Wahl, Paul Signorelli, Tom Haymes, and Maurice Coleman – was joined by Dr. Ruben Puentedura. Ruben “is the Founder and President of Hippasus, a consulting firm based in Western Massachusetts, focusing on transformative applications of information technologies to education.”
Ruben started by giving us an overview of his work. He has worked around the world and through that work has seen different patterns emerge as he has worked with different educational institutions. In an overview of his work and what he has been hearing, he mentioned anti-fragility, learn from learning, learn from what you have experienced, credentialing processes used in academia, and exploration of new paths into existing planning. He then discussed the lack of portable water in Jackson, MS, and how that situation could benefit from what people are doing/learning in other countries. His final examples – before we began Q&A – was to talk about the change in student test scores during the COVID pandemic. Ruben is focused on how people think through these situations. While we cannot transfer what one group did to another situation, we can learn from how people think in specific situations.
And after a very interesting introduction to all this (above) from Ruben, the group began to discuss and ask questions. During our conversation we noted that data is boring and so telling stories is important. Our stories need to be data informed. As Diane said, “The stories contribute meaning.” Metaphors are important.
How do we teach organizations to be failure tolerant and take risks? We need cultures that are willing to try new things, create communities of practice, and learn from what they are doing. Success organizations are willing to talk about what works and doesn’t work, and learn from that. The organizations must have innovation as a shared value.
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Nassim Nicholas Nicholas Taleb. (2014) Antifragile: Things That Gain from Disorder. (paid link)
Tom Haymes. (2021) Designing Antifragile Learning Systems.
Tom Haymes. (2021) Making Our Learning Networks Antifragile.
Tonight Pat Wagner joined us again. Pat is “closing up one tent in order to open up another.” We’re grateful that she came back to impart more wisdom. Pat was joined by Jill Hurst-Wahl, Paul Signorelli, Diane Huckabay, and Maurice Coleman.
Pat is an educator, not a fixer. She began with a story about a situation that was presented to her which required “training.” When she looked into the situation, she found one where the management had tolerated bad behavior which training would not fix. She is pro accountability. If an organization is not willing to be accountable, it will continue to have the same problems.
Pat, in her storytelling, connected to the conversation we had started early in the show about diversity, equity, inclusion, accessibility, acceptance, and belonging. That thread of diversity ran through the entire show!
We want to thank TalkShoe for the background noise that they added in. It was like being on an old-fashioned party line, where two conversations were overlapping. Thankfully, we were all good humored about. We also played a game of telephone because Pat could not hear Maurice. Ah…technology!
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Addendum (05/08/2022): Here is a resource that Pat mentioned during our conversation: List of Learning Theories compiled by Richard Culatta.
On the call were Maurice Coleman, Tom Haymes, Diane Huckabay, Jill Hurst-Wahl, Paul Signorelli, and Andrea Snyder. Andrea told us about the Public Library Association Conference, which was the first large in-person conference she’d been to since February 2020. She started with a thank-you to the Network of the National Library of Medicine, which provided funding to her. She noted that NNLM provides free health resources which libraries can use for programs.
According to Andrea, 4000-5000 people attended conference in-person (half the size of their pre-pandemic conferences) and there were also virtual program offered at the same time for those who were not at the in-person event. PLA reported 6000 people total between in-person and virtual. Masks, etc., were required for the in-person event.
The most impactful thing Andrea got from the conference was the concept that libraries are micro colonizers. She picked that up from Julian Gooding‘s lightning talk entitled “How to Decolonize Your Library Programs.” Description:
The effects from hundreds of years of colonization continues to harm cultures, language, and literacy development. Using the lived experiences of Native Americans and African Americans, documentary filmmaker and adult services librarian Julian Gooding will discuss his journey to decolonize his own mind and recognize unconscious bias and microaggressions as a Black man delivering programs within BIPOC and white communities. Participants will learn to look within their own thinking and apply the strategies of restorative practice for healing and growth.
We talked about the program Andrea did with Cassie Guthrie on “Pathways to Professional Diversity Through Library Internships.” Then we talked about internships, being a generalist, and more. We also talked about the book:
Have fun listing to the episode. There are a few laughs that you’ll enjoy as well as good info,
Tonight T is for Training welcomed Casey Davis, who is the author of Digital Civics and Citizenship: An Applied Approach. Joining Casey were Maurice Coleman, Paul Signorelli, Tom Haymes, Diane Huckabay, and Jill Hurst-Wahl. The description of Casey’s book is a good introduction to this episode. It says:
More and more individuals today are “digital natives.” They are comfortable with all of the advances in technology, using it every day. However, while they may be able to access the digital world easily does not translate into being able to successfully navigate it. Regardless of age and experience, young adults must be mindful of their digital presence in the expanding digital world. This book provides a guide for librarians, educators, counselors, and administrators to guide secondary and higher education students in successfully practicing responsible citizenship and civics in the digital world. In our world where our social credit is held increasing value, digital civics and citizenship are powerful tools, especially for students just venturing into this expansive realm.
The book is meant to be read by selecting the sections you want to focus on first. Casey described it as for just-in-time training.
Our topics included civics, citizenship, humor, identity, and transparency. Yes, we acknowledged that the word “citizen” can be used in a divisive manner, but the word in this context is as a person being a “citizen” (an inhabitant) of a specific online platform. (There was a lively chat/text conversation about this.)
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On the call were Charles Joseph (a first timer), Andrea Snyder, Diane Huckabay, Jill Hurst-Wahl, Paul Signorelli, Tom Haymes, and Maurice Coleman. This week we turned our attention to Maurice, who recently received his bachelor’s degree, and asked him questions about life-long learning. It was an insightful conversation about motivation, perseverance, and the options people have – or should have – after graduating high school.
By the way, Charles pulled a “Paul” – an inside joke – by mentioning a relevant book, Ideas for Action: Relevant Theory for Radical Change by Cynthia Kaufman (paid link).
This was a conversation that needed more time, so we’ll return to it in four weeks on March 10.
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started by telling us the inspiration for the book and then dug into the neuroscience behind “making someone’s day.” (page 34) Yes, science! And there is a boomerang effect and ripples. Wow!
How can we make everyone feel like a VIP? Howard gave us his VIP model (p. 127). We need to observe what is happening around us, identify a need or opportunity, and act.
We spent the rest of the show telling stories and highlighting how people’s days have been made better. Howard shared stories from the book. We shared stories – positive and negative – from our work lives. We even talked about how introverts can make someone’s day (chapter 6). The conversation was interesting with lots of information, and uplifting.